Hi,
way/1475270529 is not a horse riding centre (leisure=horse_riding ). is is a horse riding arena, like way/501700772 ( leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian ). See also osm.wiki/How_to_map_a#Riding_centre_(equestrian)

Hi,
way/1474819805 and way/1474819806 don't look like horse riding centres ( leisure=horse_riding ): they look more like a round pen and a horse riding arena. These are usually tagged with leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian , see
osm.wiki/How_to_map_a#Riding_centre_(equestrian) and
way/1241327623#map=19/42.193689/13.514314&layers=P (example)

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Ciao,
way/1474819805 e way/1474819806 non sembrano centri di equitazione (leisure=horse_riding): sembrano piuttosto un recinto circolare e un maneggio. Questi sono solitamente contrassegnati con leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian, vedi
osm.wiki/How_to_map_a#Riding_centre_(equestrian) e
way/1241327623#map=19/42.193689/13.514314&layers=P (esempio)

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Hi,
Isn't way/1472956013 a riding arena like way/1433742120 (tags leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian instead of leisure=horse_riding )?

Hi,
was ist way/1467140140 für eine Fläche? Es sieht mir nicht nach einer Reitanlage ( leisure=horse_riding ) aus. Das hier ist z.B. eine Reitanlage: way/24496203. Wie ein Reitplatz sieht es auch nicht aus. Ist es vielleicht so was wie auf landuse=animal_keeping beschrieben?

Hi,
way/1466048570 ist keine Reitanlage (siehe wiki leisure=horse_riding ). Das ist eine Führanlage (siehe wiki animal=horse_walker ). Hast du schon mal jemanden in einer Führanlage reiten sehen?

(Wir hatten das Thema schon früher diskutiert: changeset/138395035)

Hi,
way/1465790788 sieht nicht aus wie eine Reitanlage gemäß leisure=horse_riding . Sieht aus wie ein Reitplatz. Sollte dann besser mit leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian getaggt werden. Vgl. osm.wiki/DE:How_to_map_a/R#Reitstall und way/24720573#map=17/47.854408/11.181056&layers=P (Beispiel).
Kann man in JOSM mit dem Preset für "Pferdesport" taggen.

Hi,
Shouldn't way/1463391108 be tagged like way/1460910585 ?

See also https://codeberg.org/comaps/comaps/issues/2629

It seems that you have already fixed most of the cases where you previously created the duplicate mapped horse riding centres. Thank you very much.

I read the Wikipedia page about CoMaps that you linked to, but i still don't understand what problem you were trying to solve with your edits. According to taginfo, CoMaps does not yet support the tag leisure=horse_riding (see https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/projects/comaps#tags). Perhaps this is the reason for your problem, I don't know. However, this was already reported to them a few weeks ago, see https://codeberg.org/comaps/comaps/issues/2822. If they add it, your problem may perhaps be dolved. That probably depends on whether your problem occurs specifically with leisure=horse_riding or with POIs in general that are mapped as areas.

If you think you have found a bug in CoMaps, please report it there (https://www.comaps.app/fr/community/). If they fix it, that is much better than changing the map data to work around it, as the problem will then be fixed worldwide and not just in your region.

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Il semble que vous ayez déjà corrigé la plupart des cas où vous aviez précédemment créé des centres équestres en double. Merci beaucoup.

J'ai lu la page Wikipédia sur CoMaps que vous avez mise en lien, mais je ne comprends toujours pas quel problème vous essayiez de résoudre avec vos modifications. Selon taginfo, CoMaps ne prend pas encore en charge la balise leisure=horse_riding (voir https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/projects/comaps#tags). C'est peut-être la raison de votre problème, je ne sais pas. Cependant, cela leur a déjà été signalé il y a quelques semaines, voir https://codeberg.org/comaps/comaps/issues/2822. S'ils l'ajoutent, votre problème sera peut-être résolu. Cela dépend probablement du fait que votre problème se pose spécifiquement avec leisure=horse_riding ou avec les POI en général qui sont cartographiés sous forme de zones.

Si vous pensez avoir trouvé un bug dans CoMaps, veuillez le signaler ici (https://www.comaps.app/fr/community/). S'ils le corrigent, ce sera bien mieux que de modifier les données cartographiques pour contourner le problème, car celui-ci sera alors résolu dans le monde entier et pas seulement dans votre région.

I don't understand you. Which information does not appear and where does it not appear? What exacty is annoying?

Hi,
Today you have retagged 16 equestarian centres that were mapped as areas (closed ways), moving the name from the way to a new node. The changesets contain a comment such as “... pour info sur CoMaps.” These changes have led to a duplication of the equestrian centers (area + node) and thus contradict the generally accepted rule “One feature, one OSM element” (osm.wiki/FR:Bonnes_pratiques#Un_item,_un_objet_OSM).

You can add new equestarian centers as nodes, that is no problem. However, you should not add additional nodes for equestarian centers that are already mapped as areas. There should only be one object with the tag leisure=horse_riding for each equestarian center, as we don't want to have more equestarian centers in OSM than in reality.

Why did you do that? What is the problem with CoMaps? (I have never used it). What do you think about correcting these duplications?

These are the changesets:
changeset/176625635 (2 cases)
changeset/176625965 (1 case, just node added)
changeset/176626328 (1 case)
changeset/176627477 (1 case)
changeset/176628183 (1 case)
changeset/176628751 (1 case)
changeset/176629576 (1 case)
changeset/176630217 (1 case)
changeset/176630581 (1 case)
changeset/176630811 (1 case)
changeset/176641394 (1 case)
changeset/176642332 (1 case)
changeset/176643547 (1 case)
changeset/176643764 (1 case)
changeset/176644473 (1 case)
changeset/176644919 (1 case)

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Bonjour,
Aujourd'hui, vous avez retagué 16 centres équestres qui étaient cartographiés en tant que zones (voies fermées), en déplaçant le nom de la voie vers un nouveau nœud. Tous les ensembles de modifications contiennent un commentaire tel que « ... pour info sur CoMaps ». Cependant, vous ne devez pas ajouter de nœuds supplémentaires pour les centres équestres qui sont déjà cartographiés en tant que zones. Il ne devrait y avoir qu'un seul objet avec la balise leisure=horse_riding pour chaque centre équestre, car nous ne voulons pas avoir plus de centres équestres dans OSM que dans la réalité.

Pourquoi avez-vous fait cela ? Quel est le problème avec CoMaps ? (Je ne l'ai jamais utilisé). Que pensez-vous de la correction de ces doublons ?

Voici les ensembles de modifications:
changeset/176625635 (2 cases)
changeset/176625965 (1 case, just node added)
changeset/176626328 (1 case)
changeset/176627477 (1 case)
changeset/176628183 (1 case)
changeset/176628751 (1 case)
changeset/176629576 (1 case)
changeset/176630217 (1 case)
changeset/176630581 (1 case)
changeset/176630811 (1 case)
changeset/176641394 (1 case)
changeset/176642332 (1 case)
changeset/176643547 (1 case)
changeset/176643764 (1 case)
changeset/176644473 (1 case)
changeset/176644919 (1 case)

Thanks for the explanation. leisure=pitch still seems inappropriate to me for the entire area. To my knowledge, this is normally only used for areas where a sport is practiced, but not for such large areas that also contain many service roads and buildings. That's also what it says on the wiki page. In Australia, landise=recreation_ground is often used for racecourses. Maybe that would work here too. I don't know. In any case, I won't change the tags. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Thank you as well.

Oh,, I just saw that you retagged way/1444237933 from keisure=pitch + sport=equestrian to leisure=horse_riding with comment "More appropiate tagging of horse pitch" .You must have misunderstood me. I can clearly see in Bing etc. that it is a riding arena. Since you allowed me to retag the arenas to my liking (and to what the wiki recommends), I have retagged it back: changeset/176460995

Hi,
double mapping of equestrian centre was a bad idea imho, see osm.wiki/FR:Bonnes_pratiques#Un_item,_un_objet_OSM

Hi,
way/1461780422 and way/1461780423 are no horse riding centers, they may be horse riding arenas like way/1133046791. See also osm.wiki/How_to_map_a#Riding_centre_(equestrian)

Danke.

Thanks for answering. I saw that you already changed it. Perhaps it is helpful for the understanding to look at an example of a riding centre that contains riding arenas (outdoor and indoor) and has a link to a website with photos, like this one:
way/1307011622#map=18/50.525509/5.455804&layers=P
https://www.lesecuriesdoksana.be/-Installations-41-.html
See also osm.wiki/How_to_map_a#Riding_centre_(equestrian)

Hi,
I think way/390246009 should be tagged with leisure=sports_centre + sport=horse_racing instead of leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian. Compare osm.wiki/How_to_map_a#Racecourse_(horse_racing).
(Since you are a high-ranking OSM member, I don't dare to change that myself.)

Hi,
I assume that way/1461325767 and way/1452821273 should actually be tagged in the same way as way/1444237933 and way/1444237295. Correct?